BEWARE of this company and this ebay seller! All details are below, but in summary the seller sent my order to the wrong address ("213" instead of "231") and refuses to issue a refund or resend the product. I have had to file multiple complaints (ebay, squaretrade, paypal) and dispute the charge with my credit card to receive reimbursement. You'll notice in the emails below that the seller said she'd send a money order but never did, and that she blames her error on me. (I have had a previous dealing with this seller for $50+ and _was_ a repeat customer, NEVER again!) In addition to stealing my money, this seller left me negative feedback as a retalitory measure for her negative feedback; look at the feedback she has left for others, it is 90% negative! Seller has left negative feedback on _3_ of my ebay user id's for this one sale, and each states "adult toy" or similar; see "killernsx", "taken4somereason", "sm55555" for feedback. When I ordered a chargeback through my credit card the seller used the tracking number from the previous sale as proof of delivery for this sale (previous tracking number shows delivery as 12 days BEFORE this auction closed!) EMAILS READ BOTTOM TO TOP (top email is latest).
----- Original Message -----
From: virginia rossi
To: Steve M.
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:22 PM
Subject: RE: ebay cheapnless6
how would you like me to send it by jet i can leave you doozy feedback to jerk. imy account in paypal is closed becaus i am not supposed to take adult money and i lidiots like you slip. the tracking sheet says you received it i know the number was reversed but the post office says they correct it do you have a secure place for your mail. i was sending one out but since you complained to paypal get the money from them, the deal was i would send it when they came in i only had one. i hate blackmailers i will write and ask the person at 2xx if they stole it from you as you are saying.
This is going in your feedback tonight if I don’t have a refund issued by that time.
https://4sale4.tripod.com/cheapnless6.html
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From: Steve M. [mailto:KillerNSX@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 1:01 PM
To: 'virginia rossi'
Subject: FW: Congratulations! You are the buyer for "waterproof push button bullet-NEW"
What about these emails says that we agreed to wait until you rec’d more? It says if you can’t get one in a week, issue a refund. If you remember, I have bought from you in the past under ebay user id “sm55555” and we had no problem when you sent it to the RIGHT address….however you think I’m trying to scam you for $12?! Get real! Your business practice leaves much to be desired and you won’t have my business again for sure. I have disputed the item with my credit card, I will not have to pay it anyway, however, I will still continue to pursue the matter with ebay, paypal, and the US Postal Service, since you have not fulfilled my order and have conducted a fraudulent sale and used the US Postal Service in the meantime (Felony). I will also email your bidders for the next few months with all these emails to show them your business practices.
Good Luck
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From: virginia rossi [mailto:cheapnless6@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 12:52 PM
To: KillerNSX@hotmail.com
Subject: ebay cheapnless6
i thought we left it as i would email when i rec. the produc6t you knew that i had none and was awaiting an overdue shipment the place closed for a long vacation so since you are going thru paypal to receive your money i will not have to send. also i checked with the post office and they said that if the name and address do not add up they send it back or check it the mail of that kind is automated and if something does not add up either way it is returned i have not seen it and the tracking sheet said delivered my brother send on dec. 18 a package and put 5 instead of three it was returned to him and he sent it back and put 7 this time and the post office crossed it out and put 3 i received it yesterday. what were you trying to do get money or an item from all sources. i had planned to email you this weekend as they came in yesterday i think it was sneakey not to email me first also this is the reason why paypal does not take money from mature audiences which they were more than happy to remind me. so have fun with paypal they are useless i got ripped off on a vase for 475 and paypal did do much they after months gave me 70 i sent it back they grab the money but do not stand behind you. i therefore consider this closed.
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From: Steve M. [mailto:KillerNSX@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:23 AM
To: 'Steve M.'; 'virginia rossi'
Subject: RE: Congratulations! You are the buyer for "waterproof push button bullet-NEW"
Please let me know the status on this, I should have received a refund or the items by now and I have not received either. If you would rather I dispute the item through paypal & with my credit card I will do that today, just let me know if something has been sent or not.
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From: Steve M. [mailto:KillerNSX@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:38 PM
To: 'virginia rossi'
Subject: RE: Congratulations! You are the buyer for "waterproof push button bullet-NEW"
I don’t mind having them resent if you can get a 2nd one within a week. If you don’t anticipate getting more in a reasonable timeframe, then please go ahead and send a money order for the refund.
Thanks,
Steve Murray
231 Sunset Circle West
Madison, AL 35758
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From: virginia rossi [mailto:cheapnless6@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:36 PM
To: SM
Subject: Re: Congratulations! You are the buyer for "waterproof push button bullet-NEW"
it was not returned to me i only have one at present and i can not do a paypal reverese as some told paypal i was taking adult items i can send a money order. i can write to that address and explain they received it in error since they kept them tell me what u want to do.
SM wrote:
Virginia:
Please see the address you sent this item to...the package you sent was delivered to "213 Sunset Circle" instead of "231 Sunset Circle". I've doubled checked the paypal receipt and the address on it is correct (231 Sunset Circle). There IS a 213 Sunset Circle, but due to the adult nature of this item and the time that has passed (since Dec 11th) I don't feel comfortable going to their house and asking for my package. Please resend the 2 bullets or provide a refund.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: virginia rossi
To: SM
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Congratulations! You are the buyer for "waterproof push button bullet-NEW"
as you will see it sent it on the 9th of dec. the tracking sheet states it was delivered to the following address.
Tracking Number: 01805213907196962735
Destination Address: STEVE MURRAY
213 SUNSET Cir
MADISON AL 35758-2584
Mail Class: First-Class Mail
e/Service Option: e/Delivery Confirmation
e/Service Fee: $0.13
Print Date: 12/7/2003 8:47:05 PM
Delivery Status:
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
December 11, 2003 DELIVERED Your item was delivered at 2:12 pm on December 11, 2003 in MADISON, AL
2:12 pm 35758.
December 09, 2003 ELECTRONIC The U.S. Postal Service received electronic notification of your item at 7:36
7:36 pm NOTIFICATION pm on December 09, 2003 in LAWRENCE, MA 01841.
SM wrote:
I paid for this auction on December 5th, I needed these two bullets before Christmas. I know you said there'd be a delay due to weather, but I expected them before Christmas so my girlfriend could include them in presents to her friends. I have STILL not received these and now Christmas has passed. I am very dissatisfied with the shipping time (now 3 weeks and still not received) and I've missed Christmas. Please let me know if you have shipped these yet and if not, provide a refund via paypal as they're no longer needed.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve M.
To: 'virginia rossi'
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: Congratulations! You are the buyer for "waterproof push button bullet-NEW"
The shipping delay is no problem, I think she said they were going to be included with her Christmas presents to two friends anyway so as long as I have them before xmas. I just sent payment via paypal, thanks again!
BTW: Can you tell me more about the drop ship adult toy shop you have on ebay? Is there a minimum initial purchase (or subsequent purchases) or start up fee? What fees are involved, how is payment handled (from buyer and from supplier), have you ever had problems with them, etc.
Thanks,
Steve
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From: virginia rossi [mailto:cheapnless6@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:57 AM
To: Steve M.
Subject: RE: Congratulations! You are the buyer for "waterproof push button bullet-NEW"
i messed up 2.25 sorry the storm on the east coast is going to really delay shipping.
"Steve M." wrote:
Virginia:
I wanted to double check the shipping before I paid for this auction the ad description says $2.25 but the request shows $3please let me know what the shipping price is and I ll pay immediately. BTW: This is the same person / address as sm55555@hotmail.com. My girlfriend liked this item so much that her friends all want one! ;)
~ Steve ~
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From: cheapnless6@yahoo.com [mailto:cheapnless6@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:38 PM
To: killernsx@hotmail.com
Subject: Congratulations! You are the buyer for "waterproof push button bullet-NEW"
You won an item from cheapnless6
Dear killernsx@hotmail.com,
Thank you for purchasing my item!
I accept the following payment methods:
Note: If you have already sent payment for this item via PayPal or other means, please disregard this notice.
Payment Details
Amount:
$4.99 USD Pay Now With PayPal
US Shipping & Handling:
$3.00 USD
Item Details
Seller:
cheapnless6
End Date:
Dec. 4, 2003
Item Number:
2968780780
Quantity:
2
Item Title:
waterproof push button bullet-NEW
Message from cheapnless6
For more information on my shipping, insurance, and other policies, or if you would like to pay for this item with a method other than PayPal, please see the item listing for details.if the direct link does not work go to www.paypal.com
Thank you,
virginia rossi
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